NativeOSXboy
Apr 22, 10:06 AM
Who's blasting Apple ? This shouldn't be an emotional discussion about the history of both corporations, this is about a specific case/cases. As such it should be rooted in facts and objective commentary, not in some subjective tangeant ranting like you went on.
The copying isn't so blatant, and it's highly model dependant. Some biased Apple media is making it look worse than it is with cherry picked images. Here's a post where I clear up the muddied waters a bit :
And here's one about the famous Icon grid :
To claim "Blatant copying" at this point is only to get eat whatever the media is feeding you. The courts will decide how much Samsung does or doesn't infringe on Apple's various trademarks and the trade dress claims.
Your right. I didn't see it before, I did mix up emotions in a logical argument. My bad, you make a great case.
The copying isn't so blatant, and it's highly model dependant. Some biased Apple media is making it look worse than it is with cherry picked images. Here's a post where I clear up the muddied waters a bit :
And here's one about the famous Icon grid :
To claim "Blatant copying" at this point is only to get eat whatever the media is feeding you. The courts will decide how much Samsung does or doesn't infringe on Apple's various trademarks and the trade dress claims.
Your right. I didn't see it before, I did mix up emotions in a logical argument. My bad, you make a great case.
apfhex
Dec 1, 02:54 PM
iAdware apparently works by silently installing a system library. That sounds like a vulnerability that Apple could easily fix, by requiring Admin privileges, issuing a warning, and/or prompting for an Admin password.
I've been wanting them to do this for a while. There are already non-adware applications that do that (think "Smart Crash Reports"), which really bothers me.
I've been wanting them to do this for a while. There are already non-adware applications that do that (think "Smart Crash Reports"), which really bothers me.
Erwin-Br
Apr 16, 04:39 AM
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Android what a laugh! The OS is Linux which they effectively forked. The SDK is built on a Java work alike, a work a like that has a questionable amount of others people's code in it. On top of that they purchased the company that started out developing the concept of Android.
Ah. You mean similar as to how Apple purchased NeXT and based OS X on their NeXTSTEP OS?
Give it up. This has been discussed to death already.
fail. google didnt make android. and the fact that you used a winking smiley to illustrate your victoryfail makes it all the more sad. :-(
See above.
Android what a laugh! The OS is Linux which they effectively forked. The SDK is built on a Java work alike, a work a like that has a questionable amount of others people's code in it. On top of that they purchased the company that started out developing the concept of Android.
Ah. You mean similar as to how Apple purchased NeXT and based OS X on their NeXTSTEP OS?
Give it up. This has been discussed to death already.
fail. google didnt make android. and the fact that you used a winking smiley to illustrate your victoryfail makes it all the more sad. :-(
See above.
kasei
Apr 22, 05:42 PM
Wow! That is thin, almost too thin. I would be afraid to drop this thing or even press it to my face too hard. Moving the screen out to edge may result in a lot of broken units.
Eldiablojoe
Apr 28, 10:26 PM
Opps, my mistake. That would have made the story go very wrong had your part not ended prematurely.Hmmm, Nies was going to be a dancer at Moyank's strip club, and Appleguy123 was her pimp-daddy?
GFLPraxis
Apr 11, 02:45 PM
What's the Matrox product? Please be an external GPU...
IndyJones
Apr 26, 03:23 AM
Add a third option, 24" with a 16:10 ratio and a matte option. Easier on the eyes and more vertical space. The 27" was murder on my eyes and I had to sell mine.
I love my 27' so much!! I will buy another hopefully next week, even though I don't need it.
I love my 27' so much!! I will buy another hopefully next week, even though I don't need it.
thisisahughes
Apr 23, 04:31 PM
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Apple replies. "LOL! What?"
Apple replies. "LOL! What?"
SeanZy
Mar 16, 10:58 AM
I have a white 32gb wifi in a sealed box that I want to exchange for a 32GB black AT&T. If anyone wants to trade plus difference in cash, let me know.
Would you be willing to sell it? Since you would have to wait in line to exchange anyways?
I have a friend that is REALLY looking for a 32 gig white one. He leaves back to Arizona in a couple days, it would mean a lot if you considered it.
Would you be willing to sell it? Since you would have to wait in line to exchange anyways?
I have a friend that is REALLY looking for a 32 gig white one. He leaves back to Arizona in a couple days, it would mean a lot if you considered it.
ChazUK
Apr 28, 12:05 PM
Hmmmm . . .
Should Google be more excited about how many copies of Android it has sold . . . .
Or Apple about how many copies of the iPhone it has sold ?
(little hint, Google isn't selling the Android OS)
Whlst Google doesn't sell Android OS, it does licence the closed source Google apps to third parties who want them. Without the google apps they wouldn't ship with Android Market, GMail, Google maps e.t.c. I'd assume they get a licensing fee for including the GApps.
Should Google be more excited about how many copies of Android it has sold . . . .
Or Apple about how many copies of the iPhone it has sold ?
(little hint, Google isn't selling the Android OS)
Whlst Google doesn't sell Android OS, it does licence the closed source Google apps to third parties who want them. Without the google apps they wouldn't ship with Android Market, GMail, Google maps e.t.c. I'd assume they get a licensing fee for including the GApps.
ct2k7
Apr 25, 08:41 AM
You mean Ayatollah assahola? :)
I don't have respect for those who completely disrespect others in that way.
I don't have respect for those who completely disrespect others in that way.
LagunaSol
Apr 28, 12:23 PM
No in bogo they BOTH make money. Verizon, Att, Tmobile and Sprint have already paid retail for the phone before customers recieve the contract price. Apple, Samsung, HTC etc have already made their money. Telcos now have to make their money over time with the contract. Telcos now have to make their money over time with the contract.
One must assume the carrier would prefer to sell an iPhone, where they don't have to make up the cost of a "free" Android phone over time. Carriers thus would want to sink more advertising dollars and apply more sales pressure for the more profitable iPhone.
Again, let's get the iPhone on Sprint and T-Mobile and see how it all plays out.
One must assume the carrier would prefer to sell an iPhone, where they don't have to make up the cost of a "free" Android phone over time. Carriers thus would want to sink more advertising dollars and apply more sales pressure for the more profitable iPhone.
Again, let's get the iPhone on Sprint and T-Mobile and see how it all plays out.
ViViDboarder
Jun 6, 07:04 AM
Don't you have to hit download twice to actually buy it?
Oh well... It's obvious it was a mistake. I'm glad they're getting a refund. Let's just hope that Apple doesn't screw the developer over on it (ie. take out their 30% cut and then expect the developer to foot the $1000 refund) like they did when they pulled GV Mobile from the App Store.
Oh well... It's obvious it was a mistake. I'm glad they're getting a refund. Let's just hope that Apple doesn't screw the developer over on it (ie. take out their 30% cut and then expect the developer to foot the $1000 refund) like they did when they pulled GV Mobile from the App Store.
Icaras
Apr 22, 10:05 AM
Give us a 4.3" screen so the phone would have to be somewhat bigger - big enough to support two chips for 3G and 4G.
Tony
No. Please, no.
Tony
No. Please, no.
dsensi
Apr 27, 06:14 PM
Seriously, why not an Imac with touch-screen right now? Will we need to wait for the next iMac update to see this technology implemented?
Apple is surely working on it:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/apple/7961480/Apple-files-iMac-touch-patent.html
And, besides that, OS X Lion will be 100% focused on touch technology... and we�re not talking about an Ipad OS...
Apple is surely working on it:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/apple/7961480/Apple-files-iMac-touch-patent.html
And, besides that, OS X Lion will be 100% focused on touch technology... and we�re not talking about an Ipad OS...
iEvolution
Apr 29, 07:49 PM
But this is how the true Apple believer thinks. If Apple doesn't make it, you don't need it. If anyone else makes it, it's junk. All that matters is that Apple makes huge sums of money so we can brag about it here. We want to pay a high price so Apple can continue to produce products that we want to buy and we don't want any competition. All we care about it what Steve says.
That's your choice man and I respect it, we all have our own ways.
That's your choice man and I respect it, we all have our own ways.
marksman
Apr 28, 06:19 PM
The current 3GS with the cheapest plan you can get from AT&T would cost you 90% of what the same plan and a 4 would cost you.
Not sure what's amazing about that, and I'm pretty sure that when the 5 is out, the 4 will end up costing roughly the same.
Hardly amazing.
Unless you're math challenged.
Which anyone would be anyone who would consider such a deal for 3GS now or for a 4 when 5 is out.
Considering the number of 3GS still being sold, there's a lot of math challenged iOS users out there.
I don't know if you know how math works, but there are no discounts for not having a subsidy. You don't factor in the cost of service, that is not relevant. You will pay that regardless of the handset device. My regular iPhone would cost that.
What about someone with multiple accounts? The additional line is $10 a month. You failed to consider all the factors in your math.
For people buying an expensive smartphone getting the 3GS is a good deal. Notice how they sell more of them then any other smartphone besides the iPhone 4, even when Android handset makers give away their product.
Not sure what's amazing about that, and I'm pretty sure that when the 5 is out, the 4 will end up costing roughly the same.
Hardly amazing.
Unless you're math challenged.
Which anyone would be anyone who would consider such a deal for 3GS now or for a 4 when 5 is out.
Considering the number of 3GS still being sold, there's a lot of math challenged iOS users out there.
I don't know if you know how math works, but there are no discounts for not having a subsidy. You don't factor in the cost of service, that is not relevant. You will pay that regardless of the handset device. My regular iPhone would cost that.
What about someone with multiple accounts? The additional line is $10 a month. You failed to consider all the factors in your math.
For people buying an expensive smartphone getting the 3GS is a good deal. Notice how they sell more of them then any other smartphone besides the iPhone 4, even when Android handset makers give away their product.
Lennholm
Apr 22, 07:40 AM
Have you seen the pictures in Nilay Patel's article about the suit (http://thisismynext.com/2011/04/19/apple-sues-samsung-analysis/)? They copied the look of the iPhone, exactly. Hell, they even copied some of the icons -- the Phone icon, the iTunes icon. Why would they make the phone icon a white handset angled up and to the right on a green background if they weren't deliberately trying to make it look like an iPhone?
If you're Apple, you absolutely have to sue over this. Otherwise you're saying, okay, anybody who wants to can just make a clone that looks exactly like the iPhone. Anyone who owns a valuable brand has to defend it.
Image (http://thisismynext.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/2011-04-19applesam7.jpg)
Image (http://thisismynext.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/avsamics2.jpg)
I hope this post is sarcastic.
The green angled phone icon!? The angled phone has been standard for phones since forever, it was usually the phone itself that was green, the only thing Apple did was making the background green instead. Very generic. Even the standard position for it, the lower left corner, is simply because that's where a phone answer button is normally located.
Chat icon? The only likeness I can see is that it uses a speech bubble, which have been a norm for IM applications since long before Apple introduced iChat. Note that Samsung added a smiley-face.
Nature images and particularly flowers have been a popular motif for photography-related stuff. Camera makers have been using it since the advent of photography.
Gearwheels for settings and configuration? Everyone have been using it since the birth of the GUI
Notes and contacts, both trying to look like their real world counterparts, extremely generic
A music and media related app having a musical note in it's icon, you think Apple came up with that and everyone else just followed? Come on
Look, Windows Media Player stole iTunes "look and feel", and method of starting playback of media content, sue em' Apple!
iTunes
http://www.mediahuman.com/howto/img/itunes-play-button.png
WMP
http://www.mydigitallife.info/wp-content/uploads/2007/01/wmp11-play.png
If you're Apple, you absolutely have to sue over this. Otherwise you're saying, okay, anybody who wants to can just make a clone that looks exactly like the iPhone. Anyone who owns a valuable brand has to defend it.
Image (http://thisismynext.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/2011-04-19applesam7.jpg)
Image (http://thisismynext.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/avsamics2.jpg)
I hope this post is sarcastic.
The green angled phone icon!? The angled phone has been standard for phones since forever, it was usually the phone itself that was green, the only thing Apple did was making the background green instead. Very generic. Even the standard position for it, the lower left corner, is simply because that's where a phone answer button is normally located.
Chat icon? The only likeness I can see is that it uses a speech bubble, which have been a norm for IM applications since long before Apple introduced iChat. Note that Samsung added a smiley-face.
Nature images and particularly flowers have been a popular motif for photography-related stuff. Camera makers have been using it since the advent of photography.
Gearwheels for settings and configuration? Everyone have been using it since the birth of the GUI
Notes and contacts, both trying to look like their real world counterparts, extremely generic
A music and media related app having a musical note in it's icon, you think Apple came up with that and everyone else just followed? Come on
Look, Windows Media Player stole iTunes "look and feel", and method of starting playback of media content, sue em' Apple!
iTunes
http://www.mediahuman.com/howto/img/itunes-play-button.png
WMP
http://www.mydigitallife.info/wp-content/uploads/2007/01/wmp11-play.png
aegisdesign
Jul 10, 01:08 PM
I use pages exclusively as do all of the workers who are testing Apple at my business. After a short learning curve, everyone likes it and it is more than capable right now. You are really coming off as an Apple ball-buster. All I read from you is negative Apple. Are you collecting your checks from Redmond???
Yep. That's what I get too. People who actually take the time to use Pages and explore it's features, leaving their Microsoft Word prejudices behind, enjoy using it.
I find it amazing that someone would argue that Apple updating it's software every year is a bad thing as opposed to Microsoft's upgrade every 3-4 years. Come on, we're at v2 for Pages as opposed to v12 for Word. You've got to expect a v2 product has a little growing room yet.
Yep. That's what I get too. People who actually take the time to use Pages and explore it's features, leaving their Microsoft Word prejudices behind, enjoy using it.
I find it amazing that someone would argue that Apple updating it's software every year is a bad thing as opposed to Microsoft's upgrade every 3-4 years. Come on, we're at v2 for Pages as opposed to v12 for Word. You've got to expect a v2 product has a little growing room yet.
saving107
Apr 12, 09:42 AM
No.
Simply because htcSensation is 1.2GHz dual core
and... and... iphone5 will have lesser RAM than htcSensation.
Also, Apple is closed and Google is open.
okthxbai
Ok, I'm convinced.
Also, comparing a product that hasn't been released yet to a product that hasn't been announced yet is a rather weak argument and makes zero sense.
Simply because htcSensation is 1.2GHz dual core
and... and... iphone5 will have lesser RAM than htcSensation.
Also, Apple is closed and Google is open.
okthxbai
Ok, I'm convinced.
Also, comparing a product that hasn't been released yet to a product that hasn't been announced yet is a rather weak argument and makes zero sense.
3rd Doctor
Mar 31, 12:23 PM
April fools...
jettredmont
Oct 23, 07:45 PM
EFI is not an emulation of bios.
Correct. EFI and BIOS are different animals. MacBooks and Mac Pros don't include BIOS. Windows requires BIOS (unless Vista has changed back to supporting EFI). Boot Camp EMULATES BIOS on top of EFI.
That was the point. Might hit the "or otherwise emulated" parenthetical in the EULA. Someone will need to talk with a lawyer on that one.
BTW: What Microsoft SAYS about the EULA is pretty much meaningless. The only things that will be held up in court are, in rapidly-descending order of relevance:
1. The EULA
2. Official pronouncements declaring intent of EULA (which might go to prove willful deception; I suspect the EULA contains a clause that any external pronouncements can not change or limit the content of the agreement, blah blah blah).
3. WAY down from the last, well-documented statements from a management-level individual at the company promising that the reading of the EULA is incorrect.
So, if a straight reading of the EULA might be interpreted to mean it can not be run on a virtual machine or under emulation of any sort, then thats the truth, no matter how much the Borg doth protest.
Correct. EFI and BIOS are different animals. MacBooks and Mac Pros don't include BIOS. Windows requires BIOS (unless Vista has changed back to supporting EFI). Boot Camp EMULATES BIOS on top of EFI.
That was the point. Might hit the "or otherwise emulated" parenthetical in the EULA. Someone will need to talk with a lawyer on that one.
BTW: What Microsoft SAYS about the EULA is pretty much meaningless. The only things that will be held up in court are, in rapidly-descending order of relevance:
1. The EULA
2. Official pronouncements declaring intent of EULA (which might go to prove willful deception; I suspect the EULA contains a clause that any external pronouncements can not change or limit the content of the agreement, blah blah blah).
3. WAY down from the last, well-documented statements from a management-level individual at the company promising that the reading of the EULA is incorrect.
So, if a straight reading of the EULA might be interpreted to mean it can not be run on a virtual machine or under emulation of any sort, then thats the truth, no matter how much the Borg doth protest.
iphone3gs16gb
Apr 26, 11:21 PM
Almost as funny as your daughters face when she discovers that her dad is a brutal bigot who waits outside toilet doors to beat people up (http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=12453464&postcount=56).
Woah there big boy, calm down.
He is a father who has a daughter, put yourself in his shoes...
Also when did he explicitly state he "waits outside toilet doors to beat people up"?
Woah there big boy, calm down.
He is a father who has a daughter, put yourself in his shoes...
Also when did he explicitly state he "waits outside toilet doors to beat people up"?
ChrisA
Nov 4, 12:31 PM
Maybe I need more RAM, but I was dissapointed to be reminded of Virtual PC, the way it totally slows the rest of my Mac down...
If you are going to run two operating systems then your computer needs to have the resources for the sum of the two systems. So if Mac OSX needs 1GB to run well and so does Windows XP then you need 2GB of ram. Same for the CPU. If a 2Ghz is needed for Windows and a 2Ghz chip for MacOS then you need either a 4Ghz chip or a two core 2Ghz chip. You don't get anything for free. If you want to run two computers you need twice the hardware.
I'll bet this runs great on a Mac Pro
If you are going to run two operating systems then your computer needs to have the resources for the sum of the two systems. So if Mac OSX needs 1GB to run well and so does Windows XP then you need 2GB of ram. Same for the CPU. If a 2Ghz is needed for Windows and a 2Ghz chip for MacOS then you need either a 4Ghz chip or a two core 2Ghz chip. You don't get anything for free. If you want to run two computers you need twice the hardware.
I'll bet this runs great on a Mac Pro
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